In a recent interview, MSNBC’s Stephanie Ruhle revealed that President Donald Trump was far more accessible than President Joe Biden or Vice President Kamala Harris.

While reflecting on her interactions with Trump, Ruhle admitted she could directly reach him by phone, an impossibility with the current administration, as reported by Fox News.

President Donald Trump talks to military troop via a teleconference from Mar-a-Lago in Palm Beach, Florida, on Thanksgiving Day, November 25, 2018.

Speaking with Lukas Thimm on “So Many Issues with Lukas,” Ruhle recounted an incident just before the 2020 election. “The day after Donald Trump had that crazy rally at Madison Square Garden. I rolled the dice and I called him on the phone and he answered. I wasn’t calling to chit-chat,” Ruhle explained.

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She clarified that the call wasn’t for the record, but she wanted an interview as the election approached. Trump’s response? “He told me to go f**k myself,” Ruhle joked. Despite the rejection, she acknowledged the significance: “But I still was able to connect with him.”

Ruhle then highlighted the stark difference when attempting to connect with Biden or Harris.

“But the reverse of that, if I were to want to connect with VP Harris or President Biden, there’s 50 people between me and that I could write a note that maybe could get to somebody to get somebody then through Pony Express and a pigeon, something might end up in a mailbox near them,” Ruhle quipped.

The MSNBC host also offered insight into her experience interviewing Kamala Harris during the 2020 campaign. Though promised 15 minutes, Ruhle got 25 minutes of structured talking points but no genuine interaction.

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“In those environments, you never have a human moment,” Ruhle observed. She argued that Trump, whether you “love him or hate him,” presents a raw authenticity that resonates with people.

“He keeps it real, but he’s lying. People know what they’re getting,” she said, drawing a sharp contrast with polished politicians.

Ruhle emphasized that voters are increasingly frustrated with candidates who speak in rehearsed soundbites and platitudes instead of addressing real concerns. “People are tired of polished politicians.” She also argued that Harris did need more human moments throughout her campaign.

During her earlier coverage of Harris, Ruhle noted the VP’s tendency to avoid detailed answers. “And do I think that she answers every single question and gives people exactly what they want? She doesn’t. You know why? Because she’s a politician, and none of them do. They all speak in platitudes,” Ruhle admitted.

Ruhle’s candid reflections expose a truth many Americans already know: Trump, for all his flaws, is direct and available. Biden and Harris, meanwhile, remain buried behind layers of bureaucracy, offering prepackaged soundbites instead of genuine connection.

With growing disillusionment over out-of-touch leadership, Ruhle’s comments underscore why Trump’s blunt style continues to resonate with many voters.

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